ceiling. won't even put that on the table. shannon bream with the news live in washington this afternoon. how you is this strategy work out for republicans, shannon? >> shannon: the president says if they refuse everyone from business owners to average americans will suffer but republicans are calling his bluff saying the debt ceiling gives them leverage that will force democrats to get serious about spending cuts and entitlement reform. here is house republican jim jordan. >> let's do it for a change instead of saying oh, give us more revenue and we promise we will cut spending later. give us more borrowing authority and let us run up the credit card more. we promise we will cut -- this is lucy and charlie brown on the football and the american people are saying we are not going to try to kick it this time. >> shannon: whether or not the president wants a debate the republicans say he will get one. >> shepard: what about the possibility of more tax increases. pelosi was suggesting that is on